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Pure motives verses individual liberty

by Jeff OBryant

In this weeks column I explain that crusaders with pure motives don’t have the right to force me to join their crusade. If they do force me then they are trampling on my individual liberties. Despite however pure their motives are they just don’t have that right. If, for example, they take my money to directly benefit someone else then they are thieves.

If they force me to shut up because I believe the Bible when it states that homosexuality is wrong they are suppressing my right to free speech. If they suppress my right to say “Merry Christmas” or “Happy Easter” then they infringe upon my right to freedom of religion.

Now, who could these totalitarians be? Why, I do believe they are liberals.


3 Responses to “Pure motives verses individual liberty”

  1. Douglas Burkhart Says:

    Oh come now, Jeff.

    Who are these liberals attempting to force you to shut up regarding what you perceive to be the immorality of homosexual behavior?

    Who are these liberals attempting to suppress your right to say “Merry Christmas” or “Happy Easter”?

    This is as ridiculous as it is untrue.

    Totalitarianism is the very antithesis of the liberal democracy we believe in.

    On the other hand, consider the current President — who blatantly disregards the will of the overwhelming majority of the people he was elected to serve in matters such as embryonic stem cell research and Iraq war policy, regularly nullifies the laws passed by Congress through his “signing statements,” holds habeas corpus in contempt, believes the government has an absolute right to eavesdrop on anyone without warrant, and whose administration cries “executive privilege” nearly every time it is called upon to give account of its actions.

  2. Jeff O'Bryant Says:

    I guess you’ve not heard of the hate crimes legislation. Under some interpretations, and you can bet a liberal court would interpret it this way, if a preacher speaks out about homosexuality and someone who heard him went out and beat up a homosexual, that preacher could, because of his religious beliefs, be charged with a crime. This legislation is from the liberals.

    Maybe you also did not hear about many of the retailers who demand their employees not say Merry Christmas, etc., for fear of offending the whiney liberals who come in to shop. Their week-kneed intolerance for the majority faith in this country cannot be disputed. Read David Limbaugh’s book on the subject- it will clarify exactly how liberals attack religion in America. Or, just pay attention to the news and you’ll see it there, too.

    As to Bush, true on every count- and thank God, because he’s acting for the best. At least I’ll admit our agenda unlike you. Of course, you frame all of his actions as bad but they are not- unless, of course, you’re one of those whiney liberals who want wishful intent over real results.

    You’ll deny these truths or spin them some way- but that won’t change the sad fact that liberals are the way they are- totalitarians to their core- for what they believe is right for everybody else they are glad to force high taxes, etc on everybody. How they’ve fooled the majority into believing their garbage is beyond me- but I suppose much of that can be attributed to the fact that they control most of our schools. By the way- I notice you did not ask who is trying to force Social Security down my throat. That’s also totalitarian.

  3. Douglas Burkhart Says:

    I’m one of those “whiney liberals” who believe with Benjamin Franklin that “anyone who trades liberty for security deserves neither liberty nor security.”

    Thank God for President Bush’s contempt for habeas corpus and other Constitutional rights? There is literally no telling how many innocent people are and have been sitting in prison, deprived of their freedom because of his quasi-monarchism.

    I’m one of those “whiney liberals” who believe with Martin Luther King Jr. that “injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.”

    Name any retailer who forbids their employees to say “Merry Christmas” or “happy Easter” in order not to offend some “whiney liberal” who shops there. I thought the objective of those who have made this an issue was not to offend those of a religious persuasion that does not revere Jesus as Christians do and observe other religious holidays. You have totally misrepresented this as part of your mythology that liberalism is anti-God.

    Your hate crimes legislation spin seems little more than hysteria. We have had hate crime statutes on the books for some forty years, protecting a person’s race, color, religion, and nation origin. Is there a history of the free speech abuses such as you are worrying about?

    As for your spin on Social Security, that is a program overwhelmingly supported by the majority of Americans. The same majority who send pro-Social Security legislators to Congress again and again. This is liberal democracy in action, not totalitarianism.

    It seems your understanding of totalitarianism is as inadequate as your understanding of liberalism.

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